Online Commentary -$370 Trainwreck (9.18.2010)

I started off tonight really bad.  Down somehow -$225 in about 3 hours.  I’m reviewing some hands now, going to take a break and put in at least 3 more hours.  I really can’t put into words how much I despise online compared to live, I can’t say it enough.  How the fuck did I just lose 4 and a half buy ins again?  It never makes sense.  I have to think: when is the last time I’ve lost 4 buy-ins live in 3 hours?  Oh right never, that doesn’t happen.  I was about 18 tabling at one point so maybe that was too much.  Guess I have to put things in perspective as well, I’m never playing 18 tables live at once.  Then again I never pull off a decent win online to balance things out, so there is the problem.  Also the tables were pretty pathetic.  Looking at my stats it also looked like I nitted up too much and started missing spots.  I also ran -$180 in EV which means nothing I guess, but not even beating the EV is never great.  Oh yeah, I started the first Supernova bonus tonight for $1500, so I’ll naturally be doom-switched the next 10,000 VPPs.  I CAN’T LEAVE ANYWAYS.  I have to clear the bonus right?  Bullshit.

So I’m going to regroup and try to get something going here.  I want to stick to 12 tables during the next session and constantly table select.  I don’t want to go past this mark unless I go up several buy-ins (which will never happen, but whatever).  I have a serious control issue online.  I play to many tables at once.  I think I can handle it, but I feel like too many mistakes add up with that many.  The main difference between my live and online play is simple.  Live I don’t make mistakes, online I do.  It doesn’t get any more simple.  So drop the damn tables and stop making mistakes?

I also want to log a commentary for the next 3 hours+.  I think it may help me from jumping on to many tables at once.  Bored?  Write the commentary.  And besides it’s been so long!

1:08 a.m

5 hour energy take, oh God.  Probably a bad idea since I wanted to actually work out tomorrow before I go out.  It’s a friends bday so tomorrow night is going to be rough.

1:20 a.m

Under-way here.  I have my first 4 tables or so up and I’m on several waiting lists.  Looking forward to getting my ass handed to me.

Music:  Techno

Mood:  Skeptical and surprisingly tired

1:25 a.m

12 tables up.  GREAT NOW STOP ADDING TABLES.  Will be table selecting constantly, but no more than 12 please.  They are about half fast, but I can keep up with the action just fine.  Starting a “under consideration” slot where I will pile up potential promising tables.

1:45 a.m

Table 12 AK < AQ all in pre -$30.  Thanks always a pleasure.

2:00 a.m

Table 12.  All in -$100.  Flopped a set of jacks on a J Q K board.  The jackass 34/10/13 player somehow flops the nut set holding A 10 off after 3 betting pre.  Just only on this god damn bullshit site.  THERE GOES ANY CHANCE of profiting tonight.  This is why I don’t’ win online.  Get me to AC.  Completely demolished by terrible player flopping his miracle un god-damn real. 

TABLE 6 TWO OUTERED ON THE FUCKING RIVER MINUS 60 more dollars.  What else can go wrong in the span of 5 seconds?

QQ < 77 all in on the fucking flop.  River seven.

THANKS HI IT’S COOL I WAS JUST HERE FOR THE TWO OUTER BEAT-DOWN ON THE RIVER!

I’M now down over $100 (more than 2 buy ins) in 30 minutes without making a mistake.  Anyone else in the universe is up $100 + at this point, story of my life.

I’m not sure how much more this I can take tonight.  Not tiliting or anything just absolutely nothing I can do to avoid getting screwed.

Go ahead keep it up stars.  This time when the bankroll goes down because I get two-outered 50 times in a row on a full ring cash game there is no way in fucking hell you are getting another dime from me.  Fuck your Supernova, fuck your cash bonus, and fuck your site.  I’ll grind up live, withdraw everything and take my online business elsewhere thanks.   

2:30 a.m (30 minutes after the flip out)

Really not much to report here, the tables aren’t great but I’m constantly trying to find the best ones available.

I’m also brutally tired right now.  The 5 hour energy did not work, I’m guessing my body is completely immune to them by now.

3:10 a.m

Just doubled and won a $100 pot on table 5.  Picked off a $25 river shove correctly with an overpair.  Yeah his draw missed.  I had his range narrowed correctly the entire street, and the river shove just instantly confirmed everything.

3:50 a.m

Still down just under a buy-in.  This entire session has been an attempt to work my way back from the train-wreck first 30 minutes.  I love how every $40 coin-flip pot with a short-stacker I lose.  Don’t even get me started what a joke.

Not feeling as tired at least, I’ve sort of mellowed into a state of stability.  But now I’m hungry of course!

4:05 a.m

Just doubled on table 1 to $100.  Got in with a 72/22/25 psycho who jammed my 3-bet all in preflop.  AKs > 99 no choice there.

HEY THERE’S A HAND I USUALLY DON’T WIN.

Just took his last $35 winning another $70 pot.  This time playing TT and calling down his final river psycho shove, despite two jacks being on the board.  He showed missed K9, king high.  I’m absolutely forced to make a play on his range there despite the jacks showing.  You can’t hide from your range you son of a bitch!

Taking a quick break when the blinds hit.  That was 3 hours.  Don’t think I’m quite ready to sleep yet, would like to get in another hour and try to find some crazies.  I feel I’m playing decent poker right now.

Break at 4:20

Officially finished that session up +$30, about half a buy in.  At least I was able to fight back from a rough start.

4:30 a.m

Back again and have 12 tables up going strong.  If I make one stupid play I’m logging out for the night, that’s a promise.  Let’s earn the right to play here.

4:40 a.m

-$40 pot table 10  99 < JJ all against a clone short-stacker over a blind war.  The usual.  Of course he has JJ when he’s stealing 35% from that position.  Must be nice!

5:10 a.m

Nice -$100 pot lost against a 60/23/18 psycho.  Stars decides to let his 49 strike gold and flop trip 4’s against my overpair 88 whatever.  I’m pretty much fucking fed up.  He could have just as easily had any missed draw or air.

Calling an end to this miserable night at 5:30

-$80 on table 8.  Another ridiculous turned straight against my set.  What a god awful mistake it was logging back on.  If anyone’s being aggressive in any given situation it’s the complete nuts 100% of the time just sick.

- $80 ANOTHER POT LOST.   This time a spaz-clown catches trip 3’s against over-pair QQ on the flop.   Any two like cards on the board they instantly have the trips, the sickest thing I’ve ever seen.  Can’t lay it down either on these dreadful 20-50 BB tables.

So in the span of an hour every 50/30 player in the universe is going to catch lighting in a bottle against whatever over-pair or whatever.  Play 59 suited with raises pre and hit.  Hit the miracle with 3 10 off suit, play TJ and nail that straight against the set, whatever it’s pokerstars right.  Can’t actually take any of this seriously

So instead of finishing the final 3 hours up half a buy in I’m down -$145 in 4 hours.  What a disgusting night.  I can’t wait to get away from online as much as possible. 

Down -$370 in 7 hours tonight; disgusting.  It couldn’t have gone any worse.  At this rate my online bankroll will run out before I clear the nova bonus and good riddance.  I have no intention of depositing in this b.s site again.  I’d rather put the +$600 live instead of pissing it away to 50/30 players catching miracles all night.  Then they deposit it into the Supernova elite accounts.  I couldn’t be more pissed off right now. 

Hours: 7

Net Loss:  -$370

Online roll:  $3,438

Buy ins remaining:  68

Pending bonus:  $1,500 (only 1,500 of 10,500 VPPs cleared)

Pokerstars:  The only place in the world where I don’t feel comfortable with 68 buy-ins.

-bag

Comments

[blog reader]

IMHO if you're not playing the shorty strategy anymore, then you need to drop down to fewer tables. maybe start with 6 tables for 1 or 2 weeks ...however long it takes you to beat it.... then add more tables per week and go from there. The key though it that you don't move up in number of tables until you beat your current number of tables. Be honest with yourself and answer this question: Can I make a profit playing this many tables right now? cheers and GL

[baglife]

blog,

Thanks for the comment. I'm feeling somewhat better today. I won 6 out 7 sessions (+$725) playing 12 tables or more, so I thought I was fine. Then the last 3 sessions I've lost (-$436). It's hard for me to say that the reason for last nights beat-down was because I was playing too many tables. No matter how many tables I'm playing the fact of the matter remained that players were literally playing half the deck and catching the top 2% of their range that could beat me.

Last night came down to a handful of big pots that I lost. Even if I was playing less tables I don't see myself being able to hero fold the big pots lost. As long as I can justify my play I have to live with it. But I'd if I lose 4 sessions in a row I think I should definitely consider dropping to 8-10 tables until I win at least 3 out of 4 again. And If I lose 3 out of 4 at 10 tables, drop again. If I move 3 out of 4 go up again. I set these barriers, but it never really works out. I always get into sessions, gain confidence, and feel I could easily add more tables so I think I'm wasting my time by not doing so. Guess I have to be more disciplined and set a table ceiling that must be set in stone until I win a certain amount of sessions.

Or just get the hell away from online as much as possible

-bag

[FkCoolers]

What's your set up like to do this many tables? Using 2 24" monitors or something?

As for why you had some good sessions and some bad sessions it's probably just variance. I mean... 99 < 9Ts etc. etc. sucks but in reality it's your expected value against a range of hands before his actual hand is turned over and then from there it boils down to how many times your range gets run against that range for a true EV calculation.

At least that's what I told myself this morning when I lost a $950 pot when my QQ got sucked out by 78s lol...

[Lucypher]

Bags, It seems like you already see it but let me point out the obvious. When you play live and during the brief period you played fewer tables, you seemed to make money. When you play a lot of tables, you seem to bleed money. Focus on more live play and when you play online, play fewer tables. It seems you are too interested in clearing the bonus rather than just staying focused on making money at poker. Remember, most poker players are their own worst enemy (and that seems to be the case here). If you can master yourself, you will be successful at poker. Your poker knowledge seems good but game selection is also very important. Select the games and volume of tables that consistently make you the most profit. Don't select the games and/or volume that you don't consistently win at. The word of the day is "discipline".
Good Luck.

[baglife]

FK,

The sessions discussed above did have some variance, but yeah that's a lot of buy-ins to lose no matter the case. $950 pot wow what stakes there?

Lucypher,

Haha your point just makes way to much sense here come on man! I'm going to be as much live as possible starting out. My lease starts October 1st, so I'll have a place set up 5 minutes from all the casinos at least on the weekends at first (and I'll have in full time after Oct 22nd). However, I understand my development online is REALLY important as well. I'm sill planning to play some online starting out, especially Monday-Wednesday (when the action isn't always there live).

thanks for the comments.

-bag

[FkCoolers]

The pot I lost was at 2/4 nl 6 Max. It was against a good player, too... he'd been 3 betting all my early opens when he had the button so I clicked it back to induce a shove but he got there. Fucker. Haha.